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Firkin 1:15 Sun Jul 3
Mediums
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Anyone been to see one? Truth or load of bollocks?
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cholo
12:00 Mon Jul 11
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Ian D Montford is pretty good.
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bruuuno
11:38 Sun Jul 10
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I'm a medium.
My trousers are 30/32
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Pedro
11:21 Sun Jul 10
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Clinton Baptiste is amazing....
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Pedro
11:20 Sun Jul 10
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"Is there a John in the audience"
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MikeHammer
10:16 Sun Jul 10
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Goose .. Like that. There is a pub near me which has a Psychic Night and I have always said that it would be great to put up a sign saying 'cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances'! In fact I have been saying that joke for more 20 years !
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Hayzer
10:10 Sun Jul 10
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I went to one about 20 yrs ago, to prove a point to my ex bird who had already been to see this particular medium. I won't say what but found out some interesting family stuff she could never know. There are some with a gift.
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bruuuno
2:47 Sun Jul 10
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How comes you never get naked ghosts?
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penners28
3:05 Mon Jul 4
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i think its awful. they prey on people. also at the shows, pre show they have people going round gleaming info from "marks" and then feed it back.
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cholo
2:52 Mon Jul 4
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No one goes to see a magician and actually believes he's cutting his attractive assistant in half. So why do people believe mediums are actually contacting deceased relatives?
It's quite impressive to witness a talented cold reader in action, it's a shame they have to dress it up in nonsense.
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Eggbert Nobacon
1:59 Mon Jul 4
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Also how comes 99% of ghosts re from the last 2000 years or so?
Humans ahve been around over a million years, surely almost every ghost should be a caveman type
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mashed in maryland
1:52 Mon Jul 4
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Coffee 1:36 Mon Jul 4
Our understandings of biology and physics disprove the existence of ghosts.
To make a case for ghosts being real you'd have to completely re-write centuries worth of science.
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cholo
1:52 Mon Jul 4
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This is always worth a revisit, especially the lady who goes into a "semi-trance" and them attempts to style the whole thing out.
Rumbled.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u4qGfNViVN8
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Trevor B
1:52 Mon Jul 4
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That's the problem, some people really do want to believe, it's them that pay to see these people, so it doesn't matter if they get shit loads wrong, as long as something is vaguely correct they will believe it. My sister believes in them, she took my mum with her once and my mum came back saying that the medium had a message for her from my dead father and told her she should be more careful in case she has another fall. mum was amazed, she slipped down the last few stairs at her house a few days before and sprained her ankle but hadn't told any of us because she didn't want to worry. my sister took that as proof that the medium was really speaking to my old man.
they didn't seem to like it when i pointed out that my mum had been walking around with a limp at the time and wouldn't have been difficult for the 'medium' to have noticed and put 2 and 2 together......
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Eggbert Nobacon
1:51 Mon Jul 4
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2617659/The-supernatural-swindlers-Whistle-blower-exposes-psychics-believers-thousands-making-think-theyre-talking-dead-loved-ones.html
The supernatural swindlers! Whistle-blower exposes how bogus mediums con believers out of thousands by pretending to have psychic powers
Mark Edward, 62, from Los Angeles, lifts lid on scams used by psychics
'I saw how easy it was so decided to infiltrate and expose,' he says
Anyone who has visited a medium, and been astounded by their psychic abilities, will go away wondering the same question: How on earth did they know that?
Well, it’s bad news for believers, as one man has gone to extreme lengths to lift the lid on ‘psychics,’ revealing the tricks they use to con innocent people out of thousands of pounds and give them false hope.
In his book, Psychic Blues: Confessions of a Conflicted Medium, Mark Edward, 62, from Los Angeles, explains how he became a spirit medium and psychic entertainer, then later used these skills to ‘scam the scammers.’
Mark started his 25-year career in the 'magic of the mind industry', performing in clubs, theatres, and at many corporate events. He says his act was entertainment-based and that he never promised he had genuine magical or spiritual powers.
Talking to Holly Willoughby and Philip Schofield on This Morning, Edward explained how he used his skills to infiltrate those that did claim to have these gifts.
He said: ‘People want answers. I saw how easy it was and saw it happening. I thought; “If they can do it, I can.”’
‘So that’s where the ideas came to get in, to infiltrate and write the book to expose it.
‘I realised the power of charisma and suggestion. I learned about giving readings.’
Edward unveils the scams that thousands of psychics use, including ‘Cold Reading,’ where mediums claim to have superior psychic knowledge but it’s actually based on nothing at all.
By examining their client’s body language and observing what Edward says are their, ‘random generalities,’ the mediums can quite easily find that person’s vulnerability. ‘Once you get the hook, everything else falls into place,’ he said. ‘It’s all pretty standard stuff.’
The more recent trend of seeing a psychic over Skype throws up another common scam that many people aren’t aware of.
In the US the customer will pay in advance by credit card for the psychic session, upon which the ‘psychic’ on the other end will not only receive the money but be able to see the payer’s itemised credit card history.
They can use this information to make themselves seem more credible. If someone tells you they know exactly where you brought that new pair of shoes last week, you’d be forgiven for thinking they were genuine.
Fortunately for Brits, whilst the scam is common practice and perfectly legitimate in the US, using credit card details in this way is illegal in the UK.
‘It’s not a gift,’ says Edward. ‘It’s maybe a skill. I call it fraud.
‘I have met people who are very intuitive and sensitive but there is nothing supernatural about them. They just assess information that most people don’t think about.’
He also explained how he held séances for purposes of the book, to prove how easy they are to create the illusion that there are supernatural powers.
‘It’s a lot about darkness,’ he said. ‘In pitch black you can suggest all sorts of things.
‘Linking hands creates incredible tension. People want stuff to happen. It’s easy to feel a cold breeze or tap on the shoulder and think no one is in the room. It’s a simple but traditional con.’
Edward justified what he did, saying that performing at an event or children’s birthday party and charging money for the entertainment was one thing, but giving people false hope and leading them to believe things that they actually had no claim over was very different.
‘It’s ok to go to a party and get a palm reading, you don’t expect them to get a hook in you,’ he said.
‘But you’re told that you need another reading, you need to buys this candle, it’s a scam.’
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Marston Hammer
1:48 Mon Jul 4
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Some people enjoy being blissfully ignorant. Derren did a piece on youtube about some journalists that went round the US in the 50s & 60s exposing these charlatans at their live shows. Apparently the audience used to go mental, not at the people fleecing them though, but at the journalists themselves.
You can give people that believe in this rubbish all the evidence in the world and they'll come back with 'ooh, but how did she know nan was old and slowed right down before she died'.
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Eggbert Nobacon
1:45 Mon Jul 4
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zebthecat 10:25 Mon Jul 4
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I'm getting the word...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIU4-PWRyw4
NONCE - first thing that came to mind zeb
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i-Ron
1:41 Mon Jul 4
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i think it's one of the most disgraceful things ever. These people prey on the emotionally vulnerable for money.
Few months back I was visiting my best pal and his bird. Mediums come up and I said it was a load of bullshit.
She reckoned her aunt was psychic. Apparently she doesn't like to use her powers though...so I asked when she's ever been correct
She said she predicted that her and her boyfriend would end up living in Maldon.
But they lived in South Woodham and Wickford.
He pipes in and says 'yeah but I worked in Maldon for about month'
I couldn't get my head around how this was evidence it worked. Neither lived there. If anything it was the opposite prediction as he took on a job and it was a disaster for him and he quit.
That's how these things work though. They genuinely believe it to be true.
Apparently she'd read me like a book and I should be worried if I ever meet her...which is odd as I was on a body language course once and this bird who coached MP's said I was one of the hardest people to ever work out...
I'd like to see one just to experiment.
If she's spot on then I will take her to the James Randi challenge for $1million challenge to prove it and go halves.
Decades that's been running and nobody has ever proved any super natural ability of any kind.
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Coffee
1:36 Mon Jul 4
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mashed in maryland 1:26 Mon Jul 4
Not sure it would mean that. If anything, it's likely that changes to scientific understanding would be minimal, while significant advances in the understanding of death and the dying process may be made. The greatest changes to conventional wisdom would be to the study and understanding of religion and religious dogma. Scientific progress has meant that many more people have and continue to survive events that would previously have led to their death. Consequently, there's been a rapid growth in the academic study of the near death experience, and some of that stuff is genuinely fascinating.
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Trevor B
1:29 Mon Jul 4
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apologies, i thought you were addressing me as part of the convo i was having already.
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